Guidelines expand FBI's surveillance powers

I hope the new administration will give back some privacy to the American people, as well as many, many other rights we have lost during the Bush years.

I'm just thankful that I do not have a boyfriend who works for the FBI. . . because it sounds like a bunch of stalkers and creepers to me.

Tsk tsk tsk, another step closer to dictatorship. I wonder which will come first, the dictatorship or wrath of the American people.

why don't we fight back

are we just going take this lying down

This begs the question, what can we do?

We are nothing without the support of our fellow peers.

We all saw this coming after 9/11..... didn't we?

the root problem with the 9-11 attacks: we knew, using the existing intelligence structure that these attacks where going to happen. we had existing reports about bin-laden intent on attacking, we had fbi agents trying to alert the brass about people going through flight training (steering only) among other clues, and we failed to act. it's not a partisan attack. it's not just bush and the neocons, it was infighting, ignorance and lack of focus on the task at hand.
so now we need to strip the constitution because of it? no.
with a few exceptions, our constitution is one of the most brilliantly written documents known to man and has all the protection and structure we need to run our country as a free and open society. i think maybe we need to find some people competent enough to put two and two together while checking their ego's a the door. that'll solve those problems. now we need to find the people strong enough to do it.

Hmm....what a convenient time to release this.

The FBI has been doing this for years. This will just make it legal so they won't feel so dirty about ruining innocent citizen's lives.

The present administration counts on the American apathy towards the possibility of change for the worse. Many say that the constitution wont allow the president to do what he really wants, to turn the U.S. into a utopia for what he considers the elite. Corperate intrest! The bailout is the first step in turning the U.S.A. into a place where the normal people don't have a say in the government unless you have enough money to purchase stock and a controling intrest in the country.

i live in Jamaica. And i feel like im loosing something very beautiful. The time for Talk is passed.

good luck.

PERMISSION TO SHOOT & KILL !!!

Report: Over 23,000 Business Leaders Working With FBI and Homeland Security

The Progressive magazine is reporting that more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The business leaders form a group known as InfraGard that receives warnings of terrorist threats directly from the FBI before the public does.

The business leaders themselves were told, at least in this one meeting, that if there is martial law declared or if there's a time of an emergency, that members of InfraGard would have permission to protect;you know, whether it's the local utility or, you know, their computers or the financial sector, whatever aspect. Whatever aspect of the infrastructure they're involved with, they'd have permission to shoot to kill, to use lethal force to protect their aspect of the infrastructure, and they wouldn't be able to be prosecuted, they were told.

WATCH...

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/11/report_fbi_deputizes_23_000_business

READ...

The Progressive: "The FBI Deputizes Business"
http://www.progressive.org/mag_rothschild0308

& CRINGE...

http://www.infragard.net

Now behave will ya all, this is no time for dissebt, Big Bro is watching & we've got a war to win !

* WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY & IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH *

i hope im dreaming, i also wish to be wise as to what my leader is getting into ....

Didn't the Founding Fathers of our nation try to move us AWAY from things like this? Maybe we should be getting back to what this country originally stood for -- Freedom And Justice For All.

How are these actions being justified?
Educated guesses and pre-emptive tactics?
Been there. Done that.
The old line, "They walk among us", comes to mind.

The've probably had those powers for years, and are only declaring them now.

what would be the start of all these preemptive moves? If these where lets say chess pcs, Pres Elections - Pawn, Knight - FBI (infragard), Martial Law - Knight, Tower - FEMA.?

who can help me define these major players in thise systematic implementation thru the years.

* Whitenoise can you help?

Why is that we as Americans allow the current administration to have what basically amount to a secret police force?

Vierotchka,

i'm not buying into the "inside job" conspiracy theory, i don't need to.
the existing oversites as revealed do a fine job of assigning responsibility where it needs to be.
i'm not saying there isn't validity in the idea that the cia arranged the attack, it just doesn't progress the argument or the solution.

if it was bin laden, then my assessment is accurate imo.

if it was the cia, returning to a cleaner imposition of the constitution as written would clean the house of those who use their power to corrupt and/or their corruption to gain power.

All in the name of national security, who's national security the rich Repugnants. It's time folks that we
wake up our friends and neighbours and let them know
what the hell is going on. Bush admn. has taken our national guard and their equipment to Iraq so our weekend warriors could not help us in an insurection.
Spying on us, limiting our protests, what,s next the arrests of true patriots. Be ever vigilant or we as free
people will lose it all.

Sounds like more of our civil liberties will be violated in the name of security and safety. It’s a shame the American people will do nothing as the government passes laws and “guidelines” based on merit instead of principle.

i think for the first time ever: i am opposed to expanding surveillance powers in America: we are strangling the american people as opposed to nuking the middle east

Reading these posts and many others by my countrymen brings me to tears. I read things like "What can we do?" "I'm so scared."

I have been posting here for awhile. I never bothered to read the instructions. So nobody ever answered me. Then I saw a little box that said "SHARE THIS." MMMMM. A hundred people read my post. On of all things, Sarah Palin's hairdo.

Perhaps there is a "little box" of instructions to reinstate the way of life that I knew and loved so dearly, once upon a time in America. Perhaps we need to stop for one second and reassess everything. Then our answers will come. And, as the masters say...they will come from within. In psychotherapy It's called SOLUTION BASED BRIEF THERAPY. You go back to where you were happy and then recreate that time.

Our beloved country is in shambles. Finish weeping and let's see how we can give concrete examples of national therapy. Let the healing begin. We have never been in a more perfect climate. When you're sickest that is when you usually make the doctor's appointment. Imagine a second chance. Wouldn't that be glorious.
Have no fear for that is what they depend upon. Private Ibber

Such guidelines are alarming given that our voting machines scream "fraudulence", and McCain himself revealed that he has always aspired to dictatorship. If McCain steals this election: we're all screwed! Run to the mountains...or something.

These amreicans are too scared about everything that comes up, i know its for safety and "what-if" reasonings, but seriously, Privacy...