To understand Iraq NOW, one must study it's past for it to make any sense remotely.
- added October 09, 2008
- 28 responses
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- arcticspirit
- the past holds the key to the future
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This isn't meant for fly-by posters. You guys skip this please.
To even begin to understand what is happening in Iraq today, it is clear that one must have clear cut knowledge of their past, I would like to take it back a couple hundred years, but I think it's like 12 pages to just do 30.... so I'll post maybe 30 odd years of past. It will clear up much of the political mess inside Iraq, the "why" of it.
Why read this? So you will know why insurgents are trying to destroy democracy. So you will understand the reason for the war and that there is much at stake. And so that you can better communicate here as well as with your senators are representatives in the house.
Don't like to read, I have some videos for you, but finish this one post please.
If you want to post with authority about the situation in Iraq, against President Bush, etc. Theory for ending it, there are a few... Read these pages so you know what happened in their past, it's neutral.
There are many that say to understand the present, one must understand the past...
Here it is...
The source also has video. I fear some people may be "numb" to seeing this on film, as violence on TV is more dramatic and include special effects. But real slayings have no special effects.
When you stop and realize the truth in this, it's heartbreaking, and the fact that no one resists, is even worse... lambs to the slaughter, every one..
I just watched someone's tongue being cut out and my own is in pain. When it took a few wackes with a machete to get all the fingers off a young man, my hand hurts after seeing that. And the beheading was sloppy. But they didn't seem to mind.
I had to post each one in a new "post" only so it could be downloaded and accessed. I put the full disclaimer on the first one.
Thanks for reading. Watching or how ever you took in the information.
It's meant to help us all understand why and how Iraq is what it is today. Western minds don't even think in that realm.
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- arcticspirit
- 1 month ago
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The following information will take aprox 12 pages, each subject on a different page. I'll put them here in one spot. Much sounds like it "could be worse".. put it together and it's terror. Especially the part about women.
Executive Summary
In 1979, immediately upon coming to power, Saddam Hussein silenced all political opposition in Iraq and converted his one-party state into a cult of personality. Over the more than 20 years since then, his regime has systematically executed, tortured, imprisoned, raped, terrorized and repressed Iraqi people. Iraq is a nation rich in culture with a long history of intellectual and scientific achievement. Yet Saddam Hussein has silenced its scholars and doctors, as well as its women and children.Iraqi dissidents are tortured, killed, or disappear in order to deter other Iraqi citizens from speaking out against the government or demanding change. A system of collective punishment tortures entire families or ethnic groups for the acts of one dissident. Women are raped and often videotaped during rape to blackmail their families. Citizens are publicly beheaded, and their families are required to display the heads of the deceased as a warning to others who might question the politics of this regime. Saddam Hussein was also the first leader to use chemical weapons against his own population, silencing more than 60 villages and 30,000 citizens with poisonous gas.
Saddam Hussein has tried to silence ethnic and religious minorities in Iraq as well. During the Anfal Campaign of 1987-88, Saddam Hussein’s regime killed and tortured the Kurdish population. It eliminated many Kurdish villages, and forced surviving Kurds into zones where he could control them. His regime has suppressed the Shi’a religious community through killings and arrests and bans their Friday prayers and books in certain regions. He has also targeted the citizens of other nations in his region, killing and torturing Kuwaiti and Iranian citizens, among others.
The Iraqi people are not allowed to vote to remove the government. Freedom of expression, association and movement do not exist in Iraq. The media is tightly controlled – Saddam Hussein’s son owns the daily Iraqi newspaper. Iraqi citizens cannot assemble except in support of the government. Iraqi citizens cannot freely leave Iraq.
The international community, including the U.N. and internationally-based nongovernmental organizations, has documented and repeatedly condemned this regime’s horrific record of abuse. Saddam Hussein simply ignores the will of the rest of the world.
Saddam Hussein has given the Iraqi people a terrible choice – to remain silent - or face the consequences. But despite his regime’s attempts to silence the Iraqi people, their voices are still being heard.
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- arcticspirit
- 1 month ago
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Sure Saddam is gone. But Iraq is still in shambles. And the key to understand Iraq today.... means understanding the last 30+ years of history.
You have to have a understanding of a culture that has been abused for generations. And is dysfunctional. Our ideas are crazy to them.
If anyone could get behind that I would think that a liberal community would.
Thanks for considering the thoughts here or reading the reports, or in watching the lives lost that were captured on film.
Take from it what you need from the information to understand Iraq. Don't descend like wolves to tear it apart. This is here in the spirit of understanding only.
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- arcticspirit
- 1 month ago
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“Television news, understandably, will not broadcast such videos. But they are, nevertheless, an important record of Saddam Hussein’s crimes against humanity that should be available to the public as his trial resumes.”
WARNING: This material is extremely shocking and graphic in nature. It should not be viewed by children. Also, it may be necessary to turn the volume down before watching the separate chapters.
Please note, each chapter may take several minutes to download.
For me the link above, I click it and it opens windows media. It's done this way so you will have a choice to view or not. Will put the others under this.
This video is about punishment. I felt physical pain watching this for these people.
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- arcticspirit
- 1 month ago
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- arcticspirit
- 1 month ago
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GRAPHIC, MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY, actual executions are on this footage.
Same disclaimers as above.This video is about death.
Mass Death. Did you know that they used WMD at least 40 times on their own people? On the news it sounded like a one time deal. Bad enough. This is one of the episodes.
What made me cry is that no one cared. They were lambs to the slaughter, yet again.I can totally understand the deal for WMD, they were liberally using them... 40 attacks against their own people.
I am not trying to fight a liberal here. I am just being human. And I am sad for the genocide.
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- arcticspirit
- 1 month ago
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I agree ... we can't abandon them... Thank you for inputting this information...
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Yes it has been conveniently buried from the start....and all Americans should know the truth..
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I have a very close family friend from Iraq who told me some of this... He left because of the atrocities and before he could be drafted in Saddam's military ... he was such a monster. This was many, many years ago. He left his family, some to never see again because of Saddam.
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I was aware of these acts by Saddam and his family. It was the one and only justification for going over there. It's also the reason to establish a fair government so no other despot can repeat the past.
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- yuniversal3
- 1 month ago
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I don't know why they are saying WMD's were not found when they were used liberally over there. We have found cashes of chemical WMD's.
To me this is a liberal attack on the white house.
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- Angel4truth
- 27 days ago
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